Jeff Boshers

Jeff Boshers is a freelance web designer from Tennessee. He enjoys discussing classic design principles, css, printing techniques, and client management among other things. You can find him on twitter @boundbystars and see his work. He is currently doing a 52 week project called 52 luchadors.

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  2. stevengrindlay

    Great Article…have met them all and a few more…my favourite is the “The process of elimination dude” I’m not sure what I want but I’ll know it when I see it. Revision, revision, revision.

    Ok Here are my rules.

    1. Get a creative brief if the client can’t write one you do! and then make sure he agrees with it in detail prior to any design work starting (reduces revisions). Do all of thinking about the project before you do any design, this means you’ll be able to write a comprehensive scope.

    2.Have a rate sheet. That breaks down all of your costs.. including extra revisions. Be very specific. layout, design, illustrations, page rates cover rates logos, hourly rates, copy writing, photography, consumable costs etc…everything!

    3. Deliver a scope of work. EXACTLY what are you going to design, what if anything is the client expected to supply ( content, artwork, photos etc) and how many revisions are included in the quotation. Work out your best time estimate and double it. At the end of the day he’s buying your time..your expertise is expected or you won’t get the work in the first place.

    4. Get a deposit before starting ANY design work…not negotiable ( must be enough to cover your costs so you’re working for your profit)

    5. Have the client sign off on each incremental step of the project. Layout, style, colours, copy, images etc. Make sure the person signing off on the work has the final say on the job! Or you’ll be re-doing the work when the CEO decides he doesn’t like it.

    6. Limit options to what you think are the best 3. Remember the basic rule is that if the design is on brief you get paid… if it’s off brief you go back to the drawing board! (See Rule no. 1) Never show the client your preliminary work! You’ll spend hours trying to make something that’s wrong fit the brief.

    7. Complete all of the work as laid out in the original scope before doing any extra work or additions unless it is essential to meeting the terms of the original brief in which case you supply another quotation for extra work and an extension of time… get it approved in writing.

    8. Value your time and skills if you don’t your client won’t either. There is no point in working 12 hours a day to go broke…you might as well go sit on the beach and go broke.

    If you follow these rules most deadbeats will drop you by rule number 2 and go elsewhere.

    If all else fails… if you suspect the client is going to be a real pain… double your quote. At least if he agrees then you’ll earn extra profits for the headache.

    Cheers hope this helps.

    SG.

  3. David Mayer

    Great article. I think I’ve run into each type during my career. I just recently had someone call out of the blue, quickly describe a confusing marketing/e-commerce project while stating they have estimates from all over the world and they need the project as soon as possible. Needless to say, I avoided this prospect. Aside from the time or two that I didn’t get paid, I’d say the worst experience I had was while I was subcontracting and had to deal with a “Picky Pickerson” type. I ended up doing something like 30 revisions only to have that contact leave the company and to learn that her boss never saw a thing. I was being paid hourly so I didn’t lose anything but my time and my patience.
    Very good work! I always like to leave comments whenever I see something unusual or impressive. I think we must appreciate those who do something especial. Keep it up. I want to add this stuff as a book in my free books. This is funny, but also kinda dismal in its reality. I feel like few clients really understand the worth of a good designer’s efforts and time – they think websites get built in two days, that you should work for minimum wage and that they can pay you whenever it is convenient. I had one client who I now refuse to work for, let’s call him “The Curt Jerk”, who would give me one sentence e-mails to explain his ideas and purpose, and then get annoyed and snappy when I repeatedly had to ask for clarification.

  4. Tim

    Hi Jeff, loving the articles. I just have one tiny criticism. I wouldn’t bring it up except that you yourself mentioned the importance of spelling in the first article of this series.

    I’ve noticed that you often use the word “weary” (meaning “tired”) when you mean to use “wary” (meaning “cautious”). I often make this kind of mistake myself, which is why I proofread everything I write. Unfortunately spell check can’t tell us if a word is used out of context.

    Other than that, I love the series of articles and value the insights I’m gaining from them. Keep up the good work.

    Tim

  5. Richard Cummings

    These are such good points. Deadbeat clients can really bring down a business. Fortunately, I have not been burned yet and hopefully your suggestions will help me maintain this trend.
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  6. Steven Reid

    There’s a type I like to refer to as “the nightclubber”. They go to a store and buy a fancy expensive shirt for the weekend then take it back for a refund on Monday covered in Mojito and kebab stains as it didn’t get them laid. Likewise a client just expects the design to do the selling for them and gets pissy when it doesn’t. Fairly easy to spot though – it’s the person sitting opposite the desk, bugger to avoid and still pay the bills though.

  7. Diane Stafford

    Thanks for the breakdown of client types. I’ve certainly come across these and do now use agreements or contracts which saves me swimming in grey waters.
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  9. pc_master

    Great article. I think I’ve run into each type during my career.

  10. Derek

    This is such a good article had a real jerk once ended up telling him to go else where. Did not take a deposit though :( All those hours on the design oh well it’s all experience I guess! :)

  11. amiR

    Lovely article Jeff, i have had a client which he belongs in 2 category at the same time “The Thrift or Late Payer” and the “Picky Pickerson” and obviously as you said “dragging you through design hell and back”, all my creativity went totally bad that time. i am gonna spot better the Deadbeat Client after reading this article.

  12. Liz

    Awesome read. You have the different personalities bang-on. I used to work at a graphic design company, and I would see multiple personalities appearing in one single client. In general, we require clients pay to pay the deposit before we start work but for some clients we’d cut some slack (bad I know!). But for certain clients, especially “The Walking Billboard” and “Too Busy to Breathe”, we had to follow up and insist that we get the cheque deposit ahead before we started anything.

    With cheques it took a while to clear. I now use an online invoicing tool which has an online payment option. Not all are free. I recommend Billing Boss (http://www.billingboss.com) which is free and I can currently create unlimited invoices for unlimited customers. Plus, I can send clients an online payment form along with the emailed invoice. I find that clients usually pay faster when payment is more accessible.

    Please note: This author has been compensated by Sage.

  13. Phoenix Web

    These are good observations. You can work with each of these types if you’re careful. And we have actually been highly successful with a few of the “Profit Share” types, you just really need to read the person and do your homework. The majority are worthless.

  14. Vernessa

    What an entertaining read, and as @ashley Parsons said “dismal” reality. Recognizing a deadbeat before he kills your finances is a real problem. I recently came across the “Too Busy To Breathe” fellow. He was so busy, he didn’t have time to ask his own questions or hear the answers! (He’d call me then be too busy to hold a meaningful conversation when I called him back.) I finally realized he was a deadbeat *before* I accepted him as a client when he was too busy to make his deposit via PayPal. A week of that and I sent him a nice long message, the gist of which was “Find someone else. Thanks!”
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  15. Roch St-Georges

    Some very true points in this. Thanks for this entertaining post.

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  17. Buddy B

    This was a good read, however, In my experience you will always find clients with some if not all of these traits. It is on you the designer to set boundaries.

    Define the scope, set the price, get it in writing. Beyond that, it’s important to have the project stake holders involved as much as possible with the design process. By showing them frequent prototypes in iterations and taking feedback the entire time, you run a much better chance at delivering what the client wants. If the scope of the project is well defined in writing, it’s easy to say “Sure I can make this white with black dots, here are the requirements we agreed upon when defining the scope, which requirement will take a back seat to this new task? No problem, the contract states that this will cost XXX.”

    Great post, I just think it’s a little whiney :)

    1. Jeff Boshers

      I agree with you 100% (except for the whiny part, we creatives are a touchy lot. lol.) As long as the scope is defined and we have enough of a backbone to stand behind what we say and do then a project should run smoothly. However, some client’s proclivity toward these stereotypes are unavoidable.

  18. David Love

    Great stuff. Didn’t see my favorite there where the client wants a mock up before agreeing to it. In the beginning I got stuck with that trying to build a portfolio.

    Also start-up companies offering stock options. Yikes!

    Some of us will copy the text the client emails right into the document so I’ve had them come back and say it’s not what they wanted it to say a month after launch. So I send them there previous email and the next question is how much to fix it.

  19. Asrar

    I have a client who is a mix of all 4 of those type you mentioned. He has like 8 sites going, all in different fields. He talks big about his projects, but none of them are complete because he is too busy asking me to move the logo one pixel to the left and make the background one shade of green darker. Then he doesn’t want to pay because the sites are not making money.

    Now I instantly become pissed off when I see him, in fact when he walks into my office I don’t even look at him anymore. I am busy working on something and trying to concentrate, and he just sits there and keeps talking to me about a new update to his site, while I am ignoring him. But he just keeps on talking and talking until I can’t take it anymore. I give in and do the stupid update on his site because it is the only thing that will shut him up.

    I’ve told him flat out that I do not want to do business with him anymore. But he keeps coming back to me because he knows there’s no one else crazy enough to do work for him.

  20. Tim Griffin

    Wow, I can tell you that you hit the nail on the head. Interesting when you have a client that meets nearly all the criteria for all the above. Though one can feel like a sucker at times it does come down to a personal decision each time a receive an email from a certain someone.

    Thanks for posting some insightful pointers and tactics for the designer who indeed sets out to solve problems by sticking to agreements. Quick question – do you write up “agreements” or “contracts”? Have a perspective on the terminology when it comes to this?

    Thanks for the great writeup ;-)
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    1. Jeff Boshers

      Agreements for clients with a softer sensibility like hair dressers, pet shops, and the like. The more sheepish the client the less aggressive my language. For law firms, movers-and-shakers, reputable businesses that have been around for awhile I use more aggressive language and the word “contract”.

      If you use the term “contract”, the “mom and pops” instantly think you are trying to take them for everything they have. They then become reluctant to start a project with you.

      This of course is only my experience. Others may have had more luck throwing about the word “Contract”.

      Thanks for reading the article!

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  22. Deborah Jordan

    If you want a good, easy source for contracts, check out docstoc.com. Users upload their own contracts or samples to share or sell. You can search with keywords to pinpoint the exact type. A great resource!

  23. WallMountedHDD

    Great read. Will retweet. Only one downside: “Or suppose Apple approves a gadget that makes x-ray vision possible.” Even in jest all this widespread Apple love is starting to border on cultism. You have to bear in mind that Apple makes old things seem fresh/new, mostly by making them flashy and claiming they’ll make you hip and original. They don’t truly innovate. They act like they do and then brainwash all their pseudo-techie followers to agree.

    1. Jeff Boshers

      Just a joke. I hate Apple. Mostly because Steve Jobs calls me in the middle of the night to breathe heavy into the phone and then hangs up. That Steve’s a character. lol.
      .-= Jeff Boshers´s last blog ..Weekly Design #7: Los Gemelos =-.

  24. Kevin Johnson

    I don’t think the “I know and /or partied with (insert random celebrity)” should be up there.
    For example as an individual trying to secure jobs. It can be very valuable leverage if you have references from professionals within the industry o.O;

    1. Jeff Boshers

      By random celebrity, I mean tabloid celebrity. The clients I have seen that fit this bill say “I know Miley Cyrus.” or “I know Lady Antebellum.” as a way to make themselves seem bigger than they are. Maybe that’s just a line for being in the location I’m in. (Nashville, Tn.)
      .-= Jeff Boshers´s last blog ..Weekly Design #7: Los Gemelos =-.

  25. Melody

    And all of these clients together = client lucifer lol..
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  26. Justin Carroll

    Love this. Try and have enough on your plate to say, “No.” But also tell the client why, that’s the most important part. If you say no and walk away with no reason you set the next person up for failure too. Care, be bold and be willing to work with them again if they come back.
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  28. Alice Dagley

    I fully agree with Orange Country Web Design. We also add the clause about hourly rate for extra work to our agreements. What is more I always state the number of revisions before starting the project. However some clients are against limited number of revisions and prefer you work until they’re satisfied.

  29. Dawn Casserly

    One or two of those client profiles brings back memories (or nightmares)! I find that if you are weary about certain client types, ask for a 50% deposit. But sometimes money is just not enough to cover the stress and long hours and agitation..

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  31. Gamma5

    The ultimate revision clients are what kill me. It’s great when a client has an idea of what they would like, but this can turn into a nightmare when it is an endless stream of minute changes that are often detrimental to the design.
    I do have a contract stating terms with all clients, but find myself dragged into accommodating their requests in the interests of a happy client, but this drags a project out and adds extra unpaid hours to the job. Some of the comments above about incorporating x revisions in the quote are exactly what I was planning to put into future contracts.

  32. Tasha

    Excellent, entertaining read! I would love to post this on my Facebook page, but I’m sure I will cause at least 5 faces to flush. I know that I’ve personally encountered a client or potential that filled each category, and could allow me to write-in a few more if I could… my favorite being the “Designer Wannabe”. I have a local colleague that fits that category rather well, and I do my fair share of just dodging him in any way that I can.

  33. Jeff Boshers

    Yep spot ‘em a mile away and his little brother “The Greaseball”, too. He nor “The Tire Kicker” made the article. lol.
    .-= Jeff Boshers´s last blog ..Weekly Design #7: Los Gemelos =-.

  34. Simon Gregory

    hi i love this article i have to say this scarily accurate! i keep hearing contract a lot, any tips for writing up a decent contract would be much appreciated, currently dont use them and i just got screwed by a client needless to say i need to start writing one up!

    1. Mathew Ballard

      Just Google Freelance Graphic Design contracts, or something along those lines. You’ll find what you need there. That is where I started and I have just changed my contracts over time as I found necessary.

    2. Jeff Boshers

      Simon, I have an article in the works on contracts. Should be available in a few weeks. Like Mathew said, You can definitely find some by googling… I would suggest getting one and editing as need be, to fit your workflow and style
      .-= Jeff Boshers´s last blog ..Weekly Design #7: Los Gemelos =-.

    3. Jeff Severson

      Great article. I think I’ve run into each type during my career. I just recently had someone call out of the blue, quickly describe a confusing marketing/e-commerce project while stating they have estimates from all over the world and they need the project as soon as possible. Needless to say, I avoided this prospect. Aside from the time or two that I didn’t get paid, I’d say the worst experience I had was while I was subcontracting and had to deal with a “Picky Pickerson” type. I ended up doing something like 30 revisions only to have that contact leave the company and to learn that her boss never saw a thing. I was being paid hourly so I didn’t lose anything but my time and my patience.

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  36. RJ

    This is SPOT ON !

    Do not forget about the clients that will be good, but want to make wording changes in the contract, which you as the designer will interpret it one way, but they are interpreting it in a way that makes the project almost impossible.

    In 16 years I have had it happen 8 times, so this is not often, but you will get client like this who play with words at one point.

    But that is why everyone should find out everything about the client, lookup what others are saying etc..

    Great post! I will be linking it to deadbeats that come across me in the future !

  37. @ Orange County Web Design

    Unfortunately, this is all part of the business. That’s why its important to have a detailed proposal, with a clause that states your hourly rate if things get added on that is out of scope of the project.
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  38. RoFreelancer

    Unfortunately, what you wrote is totally true.
    Congrats from Romania ! This article is awesome !

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  40. Jeff Boshers

    I’ve had client where I had to explain where to find the address bar. His response was “oh. I never knew that was there.” I want to know how he used the internet before that point. lol.

  41. Saad Bassi

    Awesome article Jeff. Thumbs up.:)

    1. Jeff Boshers

      Thanks Saad! I’m already working on the next one. :) Hope your having a good day!

  42. Christopher Ross

    A great list Jeff, there are a lot of difficult clients out there and even after being in the industry as long as I have, it’s nice to read a refresher now and then :)
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  44. JC

    Great post….I have run in to all of these and more….finding good high quality clients seems like searching for a needle in a haystack at times.

    1. Jeff Boshers

      Too True… So we need to treat the good ones like Kings and Queens because more than likely they will refer you to other like minded people.

  45. ashley Parsons

    This is funny, but also kinda dismal in its reality. I feel like few clients really understand the worth of a good designer’s efforts and time – they think websites get built in two days, that you should work for minimum wage and that they can pay you whenever it is convenient. I had one client who I now refuse to work for, let’s call him “The Curt Jerk”, who would give me one sentence e-mails to explain his ideas and purpose, and then get annoyed and snappy when I repeatedly had to ask for clarification. Oh yeah, and thought $50 was a fair price for creating a template that he would later sell to customers for probably 10x as much. *sigh*… Anyway, thanks for the entertaining article. :)

    1. Jeff Boshers

      Thanks for reading it! I do think that for every good client out there, there are ten deadbeat ones. Yet an equally interesting question arises… How many of the deadbeats can be converted with a little nurturing? Example, what if in response to the “Curt Jerk”’s one line email you responded with “I’m sorry but could explain in more detail what you are wanting done. I order for me to give you the best design possible I need more than a six word sentence description.”

      Not saying that you did anything wrong but sometimes these situations can be avoided by being stern as well, but sometimes a deadbeat is just a deadbeat. lol.

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    Thanks for the tip..

  47. Mike Johnson

    I particularly like the “Picky McPickerson” (extreme sarcasm). I seem to attract a fair number of these. What do you recommend for “# of revisions”, and how do you quantify that if the client genuinely doesn’t like your design?

    1. Mathew Ballard

      Personally I give them two revisions under the quote and then each additional one after that goes by my hourly rate.

      1. Jeff Boshers

        I totally agree with Mathew on this… I am from the “holistic project” camp so I say two revisions are included in the cost of the project and each round of revisions cost $xx.xx. At that point they start singing a different tune and become more constructive.

        If the client doesn’t like the design it’s OUR job to ask questions to get the client talking about what they don’t like about it, what they do like about it, etc.

    2. Mike Johnson

      Thanks for the feedback guys. I like that, and it sounds very fair. I also agree that it should make them a little more attentive in their description as well. In the future, if I do any more “pro-bono” sites, I’ll make sure that is specifically declared in the prize letter.

      Thanks for the tips!

      Mike

  48. Mathew Ballard

    I ran into my first client like this a couple weeks ago and fell for his tactics. In the end I got screwed over and didn’t get paid. Luckily though he didn’t use my logo design (which I smartly watermarked when I sent him proofs in a PDF) instead using a logo that he created on his own.

    1. Jeff Boshers

      So which category or mix of categories of deadbeat client did they fall into?

      1. Mathew Ballard

        A combination of one, two and three. He was nice and calm and told me how much work I would be getting from him in the future and how he would refer me to all these people he knew. He was also busy busy busy and needed this logo done ASAP. He was very picky on how he wanted the logo to look and it seemed that no matter what I did he found something that he really didn’t like.

        It was a horrible experience that I should have seen coming honestly.

  49. Ismail Patel

    You sir, are so right with this, going to print this off and hang it on a wall

    1. Jeff Boshers

      Thanks! I know there are many more categories of deadbeat clients, these are just the ones who instantly sprang to mind.

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